The Behavioral Corner 
Hi, and welcome. I'm Steve Martorano. And this is the Behavioral Corner; you're invited to hang with us, as we've discussed the ways we live today, the choices we make, the things we do, and how they affect our health and wellbeing. So you're on the corner, the Behavioral Corner, please hang around a while. 

Steve Martorano 
So, here we are, again, we're at the corner of the Behavioral Corner. If you aren't familiar with this if you're just getting ready to cross the street, hang out for a second. My name is Steve Martorano. And this is the Beh. We hang here. We talk to people about lots of stuff that affect our lives, our behavioral health, aspects of our lives. And that's a big, big topic. We got another interesting fellow that stopped by to spend some time with us. He's no stranger to the program. Darnell Hinton, you get Darnell's story, it's unbelievable. Not unbelievable, but heartening, I should say, look, I don't have to tell you guys that no matter how nice it is here on the corner if you know today can be tough, every day can be tough given what's been going on across the country in the world with the pandemic, the thought we'd like to impress upon you today that while today may be tough, that doesn't mean that tomorrow cannot be better. And that's what we're going to talk about an organization that's dedicated to the proposition that you can work towards a better tomorrow. The organization is called Teach One Feed One, and its founder is with us today. Darnell Hinton. Darnell, thanks for hanging with us on the corner this morning.

Darnell Hinton 
Absolutely, absolutely. Thanks for having me.

Steve Martorano 
It's our pleasure. Jordan has got an amazing story, and we're gonna get deep into it, Darnell, as you know, it September is set aside every year for National Recovery Month because we need to, we need to remind people that as grim as the story is concerning the cycle of the disease of substance abuse and the goal is always for recovery. It's tough, and we know it's tough, but millions and millions of people, and I'm not exaggerating 20-30 million people, the last numbers I see, managed to achieve long term and successful sobriety. So we've got every now and then when we're up to our next in the, you know, the hard truth about substance abuse and addiction, remind ourselves that it is possible to come out the other side, whole healthy and living a productive life through sobriety. You certainly did that. And the result of your recovery created this foundation that we're going to find out about so So tell us about yourself, where are you from, and give us a thumbnail sketch of your struggles with addiction and how you made it through the other side. Where are you from, Darnell?

Darnell Hinton 
I'm from Norristown, Pennsylvania,

Steve Martorano 
And how old are you?

Darnell Hinton 
29.

Steve Martorano 
29. I know you told me in the past that you've been here before Darnell has been on this program before you struggled with addiction. How long were you an active substance abuse problem?

Darnell Hinton 
So, I'd say the first time I ever used I was about maybe 22 years old, at West Chester University, you know, little did I know at that point that that cycle would continue for the next eight years of my life. So, not to say that, you know, I can't make one bad decision today and go and go right back. But today I'm sober, and you know, I'm 29 years old. So I would say that cycle continued for about, you know, for about eight and a half years of my life.

Steve Martorano 
You began, at what point using what and then wound up where?

Darnell Hinton 
You know, my story is like, it's like any, anyone else's story, you know, my story, it began innocently with, you know, the red solo cup, the blunt or the joint, whatever you want to refer to it, as a point, you know, I had no idea that you know, my life would materialize the way that it did, but it did. And I drank innocently in high schools, like every other, you know, or I could say many other high school students did. I drank innocently in college, like many other college students did, you know, I got smoked marijuana recreationally. Like many other college students did. You know, for me, I was actually considered a late bloomer. When I was in high school, my friend, you know, they were already smoking weed. They were already drinking. You know, and I didn't, you know, touch my first drink or, you know, smoke my first blunt until I was about 18 years old. So, you know, that's like, well, those know me drinking and me and me smoking that kind of carried over into college and then, you know, that's kind of when things started to spiral out of control. I'd say it the idea of the weed, the weed, and it no longer did for me, you know what I was looking for. So, you know, in high school and in college when I first started smoking weed, it kind of gave me this, like, relaxed, laissez-faire kind of, kind of, you know, disposition and it kind of put me at ease and made me feel very okay with everything. And then there was just a certain point, and I can't even put my finger on if I'm honest with you. But then there was a certain point in college where it actually did the opposite. It, you know, it gave me anxiety, and it made my heart race, and it made me you know, project and think, and, you know, I no longer wanted to smoke weed. It was no longer soothing for me. So, I stopped smoking weed. I was living with three or four gentlemen in my apartment. I'm not sure if it's just, you know, me being in the wrong circumstances or the wrong environment. But for whatever reason, you know, I was living with three men who were already experimenting with other drugs. So they were using what I know today is Percocet or oxycodone. I had no idea what it was at the time. I just knew that it was a pill. And I just knew what they told me and they told me that it made you feel incredible and made you feel amazing. You felt like you were Superman. You talk better; you think better, you move faster, you work better. You do everything better. And I kind of, you know, I said no, for a while. I said no, for quite a bit, actually, because I knew that. Although I didn't know where it would end up, leading me because I had no idea I couldn't even imagine. But yeah, I knew that doing pills was not something that I should be doing. You know, I tried it eventually. And like I said, that opened doors for me that I was not able to close for the next seven to eight years of my life. 

Steve Martorano 
Did that wind up in an active heroin habit?

Darnell Hinton 
So yeah, yeah, so that led to that it opened doors. You know, it opened doors for me like many others that, you know, I could not even imagine in my wildest dreams when I was a kid playing, you know peewee football or people or peewee baseball. Never in my wildest dreams why ever anyone connected to me or anyone for that matter who struggled with addiction, I'm sure their parents and their loved ones could not have imagined at the age of six that sure where their child would be when it happened. 

Steve Martorano 
Yeah, you know, Darnell, this is what is endlessly fascinating. I've done years of these interviews now. And I'm always struck by that story because I always say this that all stories of substance abuse and recovery are the same except they're different, but they're similar in very striking ways. As you're pointing out right now, nobody, nobody sets out as a goal to become a substance abuser. Nobody says, you know, it'd be a good idea as I grow up, maybe I should develop a serious, intractable heroin habit. So it's, it's not a goal. It's not a plan. And you just never know who among your circle of friends who's doing the same things will also wind up with a big problem like this. You only know when it's obviously too late that you for whatever mysterious reasons, had a propensity towards not being able to handle this stuff, and winding up trapped by this disease of those guys you were hanging with initially there who helped you move into the next level, how many of them wound up with serious substance abuse problems?

Darnell Hinton 
All of them. Every single one of them.

Steve Martorano 
So that's the other factor that's often similar is that the behavior is made to look relatively normal because you surround yourself with people who are doing the same things, right?

Darnell Hinton 
So, you know, and I struggled with that for years, I, you know, I've been the treatment 10 times or 9 or 10 times. So, for me, I'm a thinker, and I want to understand things. And if you know anything about the disease of addiction, it's very subjective, and it's a very convoluted disease. I struggled with that for years. As far as understanding there's something I was born with, or is this something that I was just a product of my environment? So if I wasn't living with those guys at that time, is this something that could have been avoided or if it was going to be inevitable, and regardless whether I lived with those guys or not, regardless whether it was Percocet or whether it was alcohol or Xanax, no matter what it was, you know, this was going to happen regardless. 

Steve Martorano 
Yeah, it's another fascinating aspect of the disease of addiction is that you never really understand and nor does it matter whether you were born this way, right, or you developed it doesn't even matter once you're trapped into the, you know, into the disease. Nine or 10 trips in and out of rehab numbers like that no longer surprised me. It is very rare for the person who has a problem that you had to go to a treatment facility and immediately get better and maintain sobriety, so trips in and out of rehab don't surprise me. Under what circumstances Did you get to your first rehab? What made you go, I got it, and I gotta get some help right now.

Darnell Hinton 
I was very open with my family and my parents; I would say, towards my senior year of college, you know, that's kind of when things started to spiral out of control. And I started to, I guess they would say my life started to become unmanageable. So my grades started slipping my relationship with my family started slipping my relationship with my friends started slipping. My behaviors weren't. They weren't quite adding up. So things were different. You know, I was doing things that just didn't make sense to people around me and having to make excuses for it, and they knew something was off, but they didn't know that I was abusing drugs. They just knew that I'm telling them in their stories that I was telling them and the things that were just different, and they were off, and they just didn't make sense at the time. So I would say, you know, towards my senior year of college, I knew that I had a problem. So I didn't know you know, where to begin, or, you know, what the steps would be like? Do I go to an AA meeting? And then I'm cured? Or do I just do I reach out to someone and tell them that I need help? Or do I just stop taking it altogether, and then I just get better. I had no idea that this would even lead to, you know, the intense withdrawal symptoms that you know, result from, you know, in opiate addiction. I had no idea about any of that. But, you know, I would say the further in the more that I used, I knew that something needed to change. So, I need the help of some sort. I need to talk to someone I need to do something. So I went to my mother actually, because I'm a lot more comfortable talking with my mother than I am probably anyone else in the world. So I told her that, you know, listen, I need to be open with you. I don't want you to tell, you know, my little brother because I feel like he looks up to me, and I just don't want him to go down the wrong path. But I think that I might have a drug problem. She asked me what I was using. She tried to keep it together that she was, you know, I can tell she was complete, heartbroken, but she tried her best to be there for her kid. I told her, you know that I've been using Percocet or oxycodone; however, you want to refer to them. And I can't stop. I don't know how to stop, and I want to stop. But I can't like me, you know, and like anyone else who is learning this for the first time. She didn't really know what to do either. She just knew that I wanted to stop, and we needed to figure out a way for me to stop, so we arranged an assessment that we had for work in Pottstown, Pennsylvania. I sat down with a very nice woman named Nicole. You know, they asked you the series of questions that they asked you. And that's kind of when things hit you, and that's kind of when you realize that you really do need help. Sit down in that chair, and they start asking you these questions. And they ask you some pretty deep questions, and then you have to answer, and you're sitting across from someone with no bias, they don't know you from a can of paint. And, you know, they don't want anything from you. They just want to help you. So that's kind of when everything sinks in. It really hits you emotionally. So I sat down with her, she asked me her questions. We came up with our course of action, which at that time, she said that she wanted me to attend outpatient sessions for three days a week. For me, I mean, I can just speak on my experience at going to outpatient before going to inpatient. It never worked for me. So I went to the outpatient sessions for maybe two weeks. I still was using while I was going into the outpatient session around You know, the urine samples and the urine test? You know, it came to a point in time when, you know, I had an incident where I had a doctor prescribed me, Naltrexone, which is pretty much like the Vivitrol pill form.

Steve Martorano 
That's to cut cravings, right?

Darnell Hinton 
Correct. That's the cravings, and that is to block your opiate receptors as well. Right? The doctor very clearly explained to me that you need to be abstinent and sober. And you need to have, you know, no oxycodone in your system for at least 7 to 10 days. He made that very clear to me. I did not take the doctor's suggestion. Because, you know, he said that if you don't, you'll experience withdrawal symptoms. I didn't know to what level he meant. I just know. Okay, I've been through withdrawal before. If I take this, I'll be okay. I took it. And I had literally used, you know, the day before, and it put me into the worst withdrawal of my life. You know, my parents got scared. I went to the hospital the next day. We decided that it was time for me to go into treatment.

Steve Martorano 
That's a process. People don't understand. I mean, multiple trips into rehab, as I said, is pretty common. And then you relapse, and it's sort of like falling. If you're in a race and you fall, that's, you know, tough, but if you don't get back up, you're never gonna get to the end of the race. But you did. Do you remember that moment when you started to take it seriously?

Darnell Hinton 
Every time I went to treatment, I took it seriously, like every time like, I knew that this was not something that I wanted to do. You know, I'm of the mindset that everyone wants to change their life as no one goes into treatment, you know, says, Okay, this is what I want to be for the rest of my life and then, you know, the bottom of their heart, that's how they feel. But some people go in, and they don't take it too seriously. And they say, Okay, I have no intention of getting clean. This time. I'm just going to come back do my 30 days because my parents made me and I'm going back out and use I can say, and I can until you, you know, wholeheartedly I was, I would never have that mindset. Every time I went to treatment, I wanted to stay clean, I wanted to get better. I knew that this was not something that I wanted to be or that I wanted to do for the rest of my life for whatever reason, you know, I know now that it's all a part of the process, and it made me who I am today. And it forced me to learn those tough lessons. But, you know, every time up until that last time, you know, I was just not able to stay clean. Yeah, I just wasn't it doesn't mean that I wasn't serious about it. I just wasn't able to stay clean. Whatever reason.

Steve Martorano 
Yeah, you know, is a perfect example of what we're talking about millions of people go through the same process, and finally come out the other side for a multitude of reasons. Suddenly, it'll it all begins to work for them. And they can string together one and two and three or four days and then months of sobriety. And then one day they're several years into being clean and sober, their lives are better, and they're moving forward. And for you, that certainly is the case in almost two and a half years now sober all by itself. That would have been you know, an achievement. But that was your goal, your goal was to stop this behavior, try to get a handle on the disease and be sober. And you've done that. And he could have left it at that. But you have this wonderful moment in I guess you were in an AA meeting when the leader of the group said, Well, what are we going to do this weekend? Anybody got any plans? This idea popped in your head, right? Tell us about it.

Darnell Hinton 
Yeah, very similar to that. I was not in an AA meeting but I was in my outpatient therapy session. And I was sitting in group and you know, the counselor said, What's everyone going to do for this weekend? And he went around the room and then he got and finally got to me and said, Darnell, what do you do this weekend? I want to go to Kensington and I'm gonna feed the homeless. And this was not something that was new. For me. This was something that I was battling in my mind. You know, for four years, even fuller before I even, you know, touched a substance. I've always wanted to give back in some way. I just didn't know how. Twenty-five minutes after I said that I put up a post on social media said, I want to go to Kensington and feed the homeless this weekend and I'm looking for, you know, one or two people to join me. And I think we had about seven or eight people that ended up, you know, actually coming out and feeding the homeless. 

Steve Martorano 
Yeah, he raised $42 and your resources were six or seven you know, like-minded people $42 that you guys scraped together. You had a phone the phone made it possible and an Uber account to get you into Kensington, you passed out pizzas, which is I mean, it's incredible because out of that came Teach One, Feed One, which was your foundation, right?

Darnell Hinton 
Yeah, like I said, man, in the beginning, like I had no intention to ever even starting a nonprofit organization that was never on my mind. I just wanted to go back somewhere that I had been something that I was extremely past. And about and, you know, something that, you know, I felt in my heart deeply that, you know, I wanted to get back to and that that was my only intention and people who know me when I say know me, I mean people who know, you know more than just my first name. People who know me at heart, they know that that was my only intention was to just try and make a difference right back to someone in a similar position. And that's how it started. 

Steve Martorano 
I want to hold you up right there. Because I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves. I want people to understand. What we're talking about is a guy sitting in a room, conquering his demons, and deciding what the hell I got some time on the weekend. I'm gonna go feed some homeless people. And the result is foundation which we're going to find out more about. Straight ahead. Our guest is Darnell Hinton. remarkable young man, believe me. We learn a lot from Darnell

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Steve Martorano 
So Darnell, you know, again, I wouldn't have a store to 501 C, you managed to put all that together. I guess the same way you approached treatment, you didn't know anything, you didn't have to do that either you, you sort of learned this on the job and now, the organization is over two years old. It serves a broad group of people in your community, what are some of the things now Teach One, Feed One is about now what kind of services are you providing?

Darnell Hinton 
Our mission is everything we do, we believe in eliminating the stigma attached to addiction and challenging the way that the disease is approached. So, we offer a variety of resources and a variety of programs for different people. So we assist with treatment assistance. So we assist people in taking that first step and offer them the resources they need to enter treatment. And then also you know, and you know, just as important if not more important, we assist people upon treatment discharge. So with that mean, you know, monetary support in the form of funding for recovery houses or funding for intake fees for recovery houses or anything of that nature that will impede someone from taking that first step, we're there to do that. We also have a variety of programs for those in recovery that range from we have a criminal history background program. Where we had one guy who had about, I want to say $2,000 in fines that he's accumulated in his addiction that he would not have accumulated if he were not abusing drugs. So too many times we see people in that situation where they do things to get their next high or to get the next drug and they do something that they would not have done if they were in their normal state of mind. So like stealing from Walmart, or stealing from a convenience store, something that just would not have happened if they were not trying to get their next drug and the certain guy that I'm referring to he had about $2,000 in fines. We reached out to him, we found out his story. We showed up at his front door. We surprised him and we told him what we're going to do today is, we're not going to give it to you, but we're going to write you a check at the place that fines were accumulated at for 1500 dollars. We're going to take care of the funds for you don't worry about it. And that guy today, it's still clean. I don't want to say because of that, because I'm not that that self-righteous, but you know, that assistance and that bridge that we were able to get with him, you know, today, you know, he's still clean. He's a licensed driver now. He got his license back. He's working, you know, to bring the story full circle. He told me that day that he can keep it going and get back to the next person as well. And, you know, just recently about a month ago, he held an event at his sober house where they held a charity boxing event. And all of the money that they raised, they donated back to the patient. It was about $1,000 so 

Steve Martorano 
Wow, that's great. 

Darnell Hinton 
It was amazing. It was incredible, man. We have we have so many programs. You know, family abandonment programs where we offer mean to support to, you know, women or, or men that had been completely shunned or banded for family, and they're doing everything they can to stay clean, and they just don't have any other means of support, because their family has completely abandoned them. You know, we offer support to them, we have a program where we assist children that have loved one, you know, due to the disease of addiction where we own for different means of support to them, and, you know, whether that's monetary or, you know, with their kids, so whether that's just taking a kid to a Flyers game and just letting them be a kid for a day and enjoy yourself. It's most important as the conversations, you know, on the way to the game, a conversation on the way home from the game and talking to them and giving them an opportunity to talk to someone and creating a relationship where he has my phone number. I have his phone number and if he ever needs anything, he can call me.

Steve Martorano 
You know, you never know what gesture it is that triggers in somebody the notion that there's help maybe I should take this a little more seriously. You're right you take your kid to a Flyers game doesn't seem like much, but it may, it may be the difference between making a bad decision or making a good decision. And in the case of the guy with the fines, he probably felt hopeless and trapped and, and worried about the money before he's worried about his disease and who these people show up on his doorstep and say, listen, we can help you out here a little bit.

Darnell Hinton 
That's exactly the idea behind it. Because I can speak just from personal experience. I've relapsed a few times, just from getting overwhelmed and getting too stressed out. And because I'm dealing with this monkey on my back, there are 1000 other things that are compiled on me that I have no idea how I'm going to do any of it and stay clean at the same time. So you know, just that stress and that anxiety have caused me to relapse plenty of times. The point behind that. You know, the point of taking the kid, a kid to a Flyers game, just quick, is not even so much of the Flyers game but you know, their kids, he's nine years old, you know what, what else can we do? How else can you reach a kid than to do something like that for them and to trust they have a vision short attention span at that age. And there are very little things that you can do to reach a kid at that age. You know, just trying to talk to the young and, and create that relationship with them while they're young. So when they get a little older and they start branching off into different things, you know, we're still here. And you know, we can start to expand on that relationship even more.

Steve Martorano 
Yeah, it's a very powerful event, because you never know what gesture what Helping Hand no matter how large or small might be the thing that changes someone's life forever, because it very often is probably the nicest thing that's happened to them, maybe in years. So, two years now Teach One, Feed One. All of those things you do and it's an amazing job you guys are doing must have been made even more difficult because of the pandemic. Is that the case? What's going on with regard to your organization, doing COVID-19?

Darnell Hinton 
Like everyone else, you know, the pandemic has affected us, it's affected a lot of our fundraisers, you know, one of our fundraisers was was canceled. You know, we've had to go virtual with, you know, a few of our other fundraisers. Our golf outing is coming up September 28, Monday, September 28. You know, we still have five spots available if anyone is interested. www.teachonefeedonegolfouting.com. Once again, www.teachonefeedonegolfouting.com. We're just doing our best to adapt with the times and keep the ball rolling and embrace this opportunity as a time for growth and a time for, you know, ways to expand your organization in different ways that may not have been thinking of, you know, before COVID-19. We're not looking at this as a limitation at all. We're just trying to, as opposed to finding problems. We're looking for solutions. If we can't, if we can't have, you know, the 5Ks that we traditionally hold, you know, it's just going to be too many people. So we're going virtual This year, we're just gonna have a virtual 5K, well, you can run the 5K on a treadmill at home, you can run it around your block, you can run it at your local gym, wherever you see fit, you know, and that's just kind of how we're trying to approach everything in the current time.

Steve Martorano 
Well, you know, Darnell, everybody's hitting everybody up for money, everybody is struggling as a result of the pandemic and made much worse in the substance abuse community. But I would urge anybody that hears Darnell's story if you want to get involved in any of those things, this is a good organization that they're down on the ground, they're really close to the problem, and they're making a difference. And it all began because our guest, our young guest, was sitting in a room asked the question, what are you going to do this weekend? And he said, You know, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go get some pizzas and go feed some people who are hungry. It's an amazing story about somebody who went You know what, I'm not going to sit around, trying to figure out who's going to solve problems. That's gonna do this because I can do this. This I can do, we need to remind ourselves of that. And that's why we're always grateful to have somebody like Darnell. And there aren't enough people like Darnell on the show to remind us all that, you know, yeah, there are big problems, but there are things we can do. Darnell, thanks so much again for your work. Congratulations on your sobriety. And again, if people want more information about Teach One, Feed One, give us the website again and phone number if you want to do that as well.

Darnell Hinton 
Absolutely. Our phone number is 267-467-4980. All general donations so anyone just looking to visit our website and get some more information about Teach One, Feed One or just to make a general donation. It is www.teachonefeedone.org once again www.teachonefeedone.org anyone interested in our next upcoming event which is on our second annual golf outing, that is www.teachonefeedonegolfouting.com once again, any golfer is interested in a golf outing. Monday, September 28 www.teachonefeedonegolfouting.com.

Steve Martorano 
Hey Darnell, thanks for hanging with us on the corner. Every time I hear your story, it makes me feel better. Keep up the good work and come hang with us again soon. Okay?

Darnell Hinton 
Okay, awesome, Steve. Thanks for having me, man. Anytime I appreciate it. 

Steve Martorano 
Our pleasure.

But wait, wait, wait, wait, come back. Come back. Come on. Come back. Hi. I almost forgot. I almost forgot. I was talking to Darnell and forgot. It is apparently in addition to you know, National Recovery Month September has been designated Self-Care September. I kind of do that all the time. Wonder what this is about. So here to tell us all about is my very dear and very old friend Paul. What's your last name again, Paul?

Paul Altobelli 
Altobelli. Altobelli.

Steve Martorano 
I know his last name. I've known him forever. Paul works very diligently on the back end of this program. So it's telling you about Self-Care September, I said we talking about and so here he is, tell us what's Self-Care September.

Paul Altobelli 
Self-Care September is it's really akin to a 30-day challenge. The goal of Self-Care September is to make self-care a part of your daily routine above and beyond...

Steve Martorano 
Like what wasn't beyond brushing your teeth...

Paul Altobelli 
...things you would normally do on a regular day. These are things like taking time to be still for a few minutes, connecting with somebody you haven't talked to it a long time, getting creative, maybe painting for a couple of minutes or composing music or something that ultimately, Steve, puts a smile on your face. 

Steve Martorano 
Makes you feel good. 

Paul Altobelli 
Something you're doing for yourself.

Steve Martorano 
So did you do last September?

Paul Altobelli 
Yeah, I said this last September, I've got this friend at work. Her name is Lauren and I call her my "Spiritual Sherpa." And I follow her on Instagram. And she started doing this two years ago. It's every day she would post what she was doing for herself that day. And one thing that caught my eye that she made an appointment to see a doctor about something she had been pushing off for a long, long time. You could make a case like go to see a dentist, you know because we always push going to see a dentist. 

Steve Martorano 
Yeah, right. 

Paul Altobelli 
I found that really interesting. And I'm like, "Yeah, why not do something for me?" 

Steve Martorano 
Yeah. 

Paul Altobelli 
So when I did it last year, it was really kind of checking off a "honey-do list." You know, my wife told me that you got to paint the room and you got to do this and, and maybe happy but it really wasn't The spiritual part of it, you know, I was getting a haircut, I did a facial mask, I cleaned out my closet and gave my clothes to charity. I meditated on the beach. I mean, these are nice things to do. But this year, I'm planning on taking it another step where I'm getting a little bit more spiritual with it. I'm really, really, you know, concentrating on what I can do for myself mentally and physically. 

Steve Martorano 
It sounds very selfish. But of course, you know, if you begin with yourself, and you feel good about that, you're more inclined to be happier and more productive and maybe help somebody else, right?

Paul Altobelli 
Absolutely. You know self-care is not selfish. It's essential. It's about little wins and small accomplishments. I set out to do at the end of the day, by doing these things, I'm able to smile and feel better about myself. The kindness I think that that I show towards myself is reflected and people will see that and perhaps, and I know this is a stretch, but perhaps, they'll feel good about themselves. And ultimately, it's a kinder, gentler, nicer world.

Steve Martorano 
So do you have your list of what you're going to do every day in September?

Paul Altobelli 
Yeah. And what I want to do, Steve, is I want to put these on our website, and share them with our listeners, share them with our followers...

Steve Martorano 
It's a great idea.

Paul Altobelli 
With hopes that they'll do it too. And then on, you know, on our Instagram, and Facebook and Twitter, I'll post every day when I did and I encourage our listeners and followers to do the same.

Steve Martorano 
Excellent idea. That's a great idea. I'm going to compile my list right now for myself. I got a couple already. This is my parole officer, donate a kidney.

Paul Altobelli 
That kind of stuff. That will be great!

Steve Martorano 
Yeah, that would be fantastic, except that would be my donation for the month. Anyway, it's a great idea, Paul. I hadn't heard of Self Care September, but I approve. And let's do this. Okay. And we'll keep an eye on Paul and see how he's taking care of us and by extension, everyone else. If they're doing the same thing. Great idea, Paul. Thank you.

Paul Altobelli 
All right, thank you.

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