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Ep. 6 - Hon. John F. White, Jr.
Jul 05, 2020
Hon. John White, Jr. has spent the better part of his entire life in service to his community. That work continues in his role as President/CEO of The Consortium an award-winning comprehensive behavioral health center serving thousands of people in the Philadelphia tri-state area.
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For over five decades, they have helped more than 250-thousand people throughout the Tri-State area overcome the challenges of mental illness and substance abuse. From their home base in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, they have created a compelling record of helping people reach their full potential while strengthening Philadelphia communities, one person at a time, one family at a time.
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Episode 6 - Hon. John White, Jr. Interview Transcript
The BehavioralCorner
Hi, and welcome. I'm Steve Martorano. And this is the Behavioral Corner, you're invited to hang with us, because we've discussed the ways we live today, the choices we make, the things we do, and how they affect our health and well being. So you're on the corner, the Behavioral Corner, please hang around a while.
Steve Martorano
Alright, here we are regular spot hanging on the corner, the Behavioral Corner screen about hanging. Everybody knows where the corner is or hope they're finding it. Then you just sit around and see who wanders by. At least that's the image we're doing. So we couldn't be more delighted to have a terrific guy who's great. He's great to hang with, but he's just font of unbelievable information. Joining us on the corner, this time out is our friend John White, Jr. We're going to tell you specifically John joins us today. But I would need a whole show and a half to list John's accomplishments in his resume. First, let me say hi, John, how are you?
John White, Jr.
I'm doing great. going great.
Steve Martorano
So let me tell people who john white Jr. is just in a thumbnail sketch because it would take me two days to list his resume. John's a former Pennsylvania State Rep. He is he was a former of Philadelphia city councilman. He was Secretary of Welfare for the State of Pennsylvania. Hw headed up Philadelphia's Federal Housing Program. He has an amazing record in leadership, both legislatively and other branches executive branches of government. He's managed loads of people, and from his earliest work to stopping gang warfare and prison reform and he's worked on Wall Street work for the Democratic National Committee. John has really dedicated his life to tough assignments and public service, and we welcome him. As I said to the corner, john is now president and CEO. To have an organization that any community in the country would be proud to call their own, but we're lucky here in the Philadelphia area where they are home based for the work they've done for five decades now, with regard to providing thousands of people throughout the tri state area, with mental health and mental illness, substance abuse, and the treatment through their services. We'll find out more about the Consortium straight ahead. But John, before we start, since we're all hanging here on the corner, a little bit about your background, where did you grow up?
John White, Jr.
I grew up in West Philadelphia. I've started out at broad and Christian and my parents moved out to West Philadelphia on Sansom Street, with all the schools here, Bryant elementary, junior high and West Philadelphia high school during my basketball days.
Steve Martorano
Is West Philly "High Speed Boys?" Is that was that the name?
John White, Jr.
Yes. That's right. The High Speed Boys. That's right -- Gene Banks. I mean, we had a bunch of them. Yeah, yeah.
You have brothers and sisters?
I lost my brother to a drug overdose. Sad occassion. A lot of irony associated with that and being at the Consortium, unfortunately, he bought methadone from the clinic, illegally, of course. And went home and OD's. And ended up at the Cosortium. Can you believe it?
Steve Martorano
Yeah, I can. I mean, you you've always managed to find out where you were, you were you weren't most needed, as I said, a lifetime of, of public service. So John, so where did you did you hang it Cobbs Creek. Where did you guys hang? Or didn't you?
John White, Jr.
Well, I had a very strict father, Steve. Standing on the corner was a no-no. But only got caught a couple times.
Steve Martorano
You know, it's kind of interesting because we're having a lot of fun creating our virtual corner. But you know, now that you mentioned it in, in certain communities, hanging was not a benign kind of rite of passage. It was not a place where people just hung around and figured out what they're going to do on Friday night, some communities, as your dad correctly identified. The corner was not a good place. Right?
John White, Jr.
You know it, you know, and back then, you know, you had issues. There were still gangs we fought, but no killing, no shooting, no standing. You know, in fact, you may remember this. We used when we got to a fight. We used to call it a fair one. Remember that, while there were rules right here that there were rules?
Steve Martorano
Yeah, they were rules.
John White, Jr.
And it really was a social gathering. I mean, that's where you saw the advocate on the block or the neighborhood. That's where you organize your handball games and the start of play football in the street. stickball? These young people today don't know anything about stickball or half ball. Hmm. Well, that was that was our form of break, you know, outdoor recreation, right? Yeah. Most of us started playing in the street. Today everything so organized. You're gonna mean you're in an AAU, you're in the league with us. We're gonna say your school yard playing basketball, or the middle of the street, playing tackle football, you know,
Steve Martorano
With no equipment, right?
John White, Jr.
No equipment. Of course. No, you have any equipment. Of course. Now I chose something I chose from any pants from playing in the street. It was remarkable.
Steve Martorano
Well, you know, john, I hope your father will will forgive us for dragging you back onto our corner...
John White, Jr.
Don't get me wrong. I never got caught. My father used to get home at 4:30 in the afternoon, I knew I had to be before 4:30.
Yeah, I get it now. So we won't drop a dime on you don't worry about it. John, let's talk about the, as I said, you know, we there's a whole range of places that you've worked and done remarkable work. And we'll get to some of that. But of course, you're here as the president and CEO of the Consortium. Again, people in Philadelphia should know about this organization five decades in existence. And it's really the the model of how something on a grassroots levels can can grow and have a big impact. Can you tell us first before what you guys, you know, provide in terms of services and advice, and you tell us who the community is that you serve?
We serve all of us, Philadelphia. But yet, if you look at our opposition participants, they come from every zip code in the city and In the surrounding counties, it's about 18,000 people that come through our doors on an annual basis. And we're fortunate that any number of our programs serve families and individuals who are from different neighborhoods in the city, a family based program, for example, we have families that we serve as far as ways Allentown you can believe it. Mm hmm. So it's um, if you've really grown and some of the things that we do are you are unique and you're not available to other agencies and so people seek us out, as well. Does the government entities like the city will seek us out for special programs that were operating Upper Darby. My buddy Mike Chitwood?
Steve Martorano
Absolutely.
John White, Jr.
Brilliant. He now he's in the Upper Darby he just retired. But they would reach out to us for different you programs that we operate to try to meet the special needs of some families. So they come from all over, all over the city and the surrounding county areas.
Steve Martorano
You know, it'scorrect me if I'm wrong, but you know, five decades ago, the sense must have been that you can't sit around and expect the government to come in and, and fix everything all the time. Sometimes they can't fix anything. Did the Consortium was a Consortium created with with that notion in mind that the you got to do it ourselves, at least at the beginning?
John White, Jr.
Well, back in '68, with the passage of the the Mental Health Act, a group of individuals from University of the West Philadelphia is rich in its educational history, you know, was it was Penn, ande Drexel Academy of Natural Sciences. Well, they came they all came together, along with representatives of the community To talk about how they were going to organize a community based effort to provide assistance to individuals who were running into mental health or substance abuse problems. That's where the name came from. It was a consortium of dedicated individuals who wanted to be available to provide services right there in the community, as opposed to having to go into a hospital or having to to relocate. It was an effort back then to try to meet people where they are and has evolved over the years. And we've held on to that notion. We try to meet people where they are. It's changed a lot. And this the virus, now you can do telehealth. You see telehealth was not available for income individuals and low income families. The regulations were so stringent that none of us could participate in it all of a sudden, on a Monday afternoon, we went from doing face to face therapy to Tuesday morning, doing telehealth. Well, as nervous and as afraid as we were, because there had been no advance notice, no advanced training. We didn't have any idea how this was going to work out. See, you know, typically when we're talking about the problems over the telephone, well guess what? More people take advantage of the telehealth, then we're taking advantage of our services. Before we were doing so well. It was a matter of convenience. And our clinicians got really comfortable in having a conversation like they were standing on the corner. That's what telehealth was like, okay, you didn't have all that formal stuff. And it's really working. But one area where we struggle, trying to figure it out, because everybody doesn't have technology. You know, everyone can have a Zzoom meeting. So your group gathering -- your group therapies have suffered, and I want to talk about that a little later in terms of what that is meant to people in recovery, to not have that kind of social interaction as support that they normally would have in that in that setting. That was the whole point. It was to take better control of our own lives, and to work with people who have a problem, knowing that there was that stigma out there, you want people to know.
Steve Martorano
I want to stop, for a second, and ask you whether this is a correct impression of the community that you guys really focus on you. You mentioned low income, these are working people. These are not people. And and in that community, I'm guessing that there has a long standing kind of tradition that when things bother you, whether they're mental health issues or even physical health issues, is sort of shoulder on you particularly mental health issues. I think in that community, it's not so much there's a stigma of course, but it's also a sense of Come on, man. man up, get out there and go to work. Don't worry about the right.
John White, Jr.
Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. It was the blues. Exactly. You know, just feeling down today. Yep. You know, yeah, I'm not realizing that Sometimes it's more than just feeling down. It's more than just the blues.
Steve Martorano
Yeah, sometimes you wake up and notice that you've had these things for 40 years, your whole life and suddenly you go, you know, what about it's not a bad day. It's a bad deal.
John White, Jr.
I like that. Can I use that guy? You got it, John
Steve Martorano
JOHN wood Jr. is our guest. He is president and CEO of the Consortium. They serve the tri state area that were in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware with a mental health substance abuse services across a wide range of that area. John, let's let's talk specifically about this. impact, nobody needed this pandemic. You know, nobody needed this, whatever problems we had going on in our lives, this thing has just exacerbated every one of them is that that's true in your your community of people who you service?
John White, Jr.
And it's not just those who we serve. But it's the people could do the service as well. You know, they live in the community, and they're impacted by the same things everyone else does. One of the things that I've done we've done during this period, is also make sure that our conditions the people who are essential workers, those hit those heroes, that they have an outlet, that we pay attention to their mental health status, as well, because you can't help anyone else if you can't help yourself. So, you know, we're trying to make sure that we provide the kind of emotional support that our employees need in order for them to continue to be effective. We've discovered how important that is. We've had about a half a dozen people who have tested positive for this virus, three of our nurses who dispense methadone for an addiction program tested positive, you know, for this virus. And so we've taken extra and extra precautions going forward with this. And we learn that we're not immune from it, reap it impacts our families have been impacted. So it's not just them having to support the individual that is really struggling and that seeks us out or that we're in touch with, but their own families have been impacted by this in negative ways as well. So hats off to these heroes.
You're not kidding. You know, John, you know, what else is fascinating is that, you know, look, calamities, like this pandemic affect every single soul on the planet. We all know they fall disproportionately On the least among us, and, and and if you look around I love the term "essential workers." How can the essential workers make the least amount of money have the least amount of services, and yet they are essential. These people are not only putting their lives on the line, but then they go home at night and they got to worry about their families.
Well, and Steve, plus, you know, that we've mentioned earlier about the stigma around this. When's the last time you saw essential workers representing a mental health therapists? Well, we hear but essential workers aren't the hospital? The nurses, they don't traditionally or or not naturally look at that mental health service or that addictions counselor as being essential, yet, they really, really are. And you'll remember in the beginning when they were talking about your central workers, they were talking about this They weren't talking about the need to make sure that we were able to address the mental health needs of the people to behavioral health. These are the people who've been being affected by this. I think we've come around now to fully understand the impacts and and the depths of need for these individuals to be available to assess people who are really, really struggling. It's a remarkable thing to see. And hats off to them, not just to those who work with us with me at the consortium, but across this city, the agencies that are similar to ours, you know, and those people are right there every day. See, we didn't miss a day can you leave that? We will open every single day. Everyone who needed surface guy, we looked at our senses, everyone on our senses that we have been in touch with, we have made contact with during this period. So we really have put our shoulder to the wheel and trying to do our part to assist people to get through this. And then you have to prepare for the return of some type of normalcy can't define what it is at this point. But you've got to be ready for this thing to really change. And God forbid, if we have to go through this again. It'll be back to the drawing table.
Steve Martorano
Yeah, indeed. john john, Jr, President, CEO of the Consortium with us to talk about the behavioral health services they provide. There's a whole bunch of them, we're going to get to them straight ahead. But I mentioned to you, john, that, you know, we're now in the wonderful world of podcasting. So, you know, my guy's telling me, "Hey, Steve, you got to remember to get these people to follow us." So I got to take a moment here, which is strange for me, because, you know, I grew up like you thinking, who's that guy following me, but now apparently,so I got it. I got to remind people to you know, follow us here on the Behavioral Corner. And if you're not in your car, it's not that hard. Follow us on Facebook, and on Instagram, and on Twitter. If you if you like and don't forget to look for us, you know, wherever find our podcasts can be had.
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Steve Martorano
John, let's so let's take a look specifically at some of the services that you guys provide. We've talked about a little bit about the mental health piece and the addiction treatment services you provide. But I know you have a pretty robust Children's behavioral health arm at the Consortium. Tell us about that.
John White, Jr.
Yeah, and you know, and and in and in today's context, he that's a whole nother issue. We've been providing services to children for decades. We are transportation is provided to come to our clinic at 2821 Island Avenue in Southwest Philadelphia, where we have all the qualified potential clinicians on staff who are working with children and with their families, as well as a couple of I guess what you would call them proven or evidence based programs that are proven very Very effective in working with kids and families We place a lot of emphasis on the family structure because children are attached to a family. They're not out there, you know, wandering around by themselves, so to speak. In most cases, it's the family that needs to help. Our parents need to know how to cope with children, who may have a behavioral health issue, what to do, how to respond to an unacceptable behavior, how to how to handle an angry child. So we try to not only provide the necessary treatment and support to children, but to do likewise for the families and to help them be able to understand what's going on with your child, and how best they can help us support them. You know, every parent has one goal, and that is to protect their children from harm. And it is a traumatic experience when you realize that your child is having issues that go beyond your capabilities as a parent, the sense of guilt, the sense of remorse, all have to be addressed to the, to this to this to this intervention. And this time of year with this COVID mess, you got to, you know, remember, things were closed, so kids couldn't get to daycare, kids can't get to the clinic, you know, for help, they're at home and tell them telephones don't work for them. You're not going to keep calling the attention of an eight year old or nine year old, you know, on the phone to try to help them it just doesn't work. Plus parents of course, you know, even now that we're slightly reopened are reluctant to send their children back out into the world so to speak, for fear that your the disease might impact one them. And so our children's program is real, I'm very proud of them. They've done a tremendous job is staying in touch with families and parents and reopened on Monday, and we had 19 children on our first day, which was remarkable.
Steve Martorano
One of the reasons we reached out because you're a great resource for this stuff anyway, but it's July, is designated as national Minority Health Month. Okay. And I want to talk a little bit about one of the things that this designation is about is pointing out some of the disparities between groups and services they have is that disparity narrowing or widening, I mean, how available these services to everybody now?
John White, Jr.
I think that it's comme ci comme ça. I think you're seeing some evidence of recognition of it. I maintain that through this virus, and identifying at risk populations, like African Americans like in our community, some of that is being fueled by decades of neglect. You know, it's our failure to act. message, diabetes to adequately mentioned high blood pressure, you know, and and making and getting people into care having folks receive the services necessary to treat that. So a lot of this, I think has been the accumulated effect and absence of focus on the needs of these marginal communities to have their health care issues identified, met, and how about educating them as to the importance of maintaining their health through these things, all of a sudden, avoidable. You can eat right and minimize diabetes. You can exercise to minimize high blood pressures. But if you're not doing that net effect of the continuing, ravaging of your body, your emotional health just goes on and on on and this is the accumulation of a failure to address those issues.
Steve Martorano
Well, this is a great moment to mention something else, of course that we have failed to address and that is the effects of racism in our in our society. And, you know, as though we needed something else to deal with in the middle of a pandemic, we have had a series of tremendous civil unrest we've seen you've seen it all, you know what I'm talking about, associated with police violence. You go way back as a public servant. You have seen these outbreaks before. I mean, you and I are around the same age. No one's older than I am. So you probably aren't either. And we've been through this before we've seen cities burn we've seen people's frustration, erupt into, you know, both peaceful and not so peaceful expressions. How do you not grow disheartened that it seems like well, here we are again, 1964 1968, Watts. What keeps you going?
John White, Jr.
Well, that's an unfair question. Because I could only speak for myself in that regard. Um, it saddens me that in 2020, the same issue, particularly around police, has been around all these years decades. Remember to push back against (Frank) Rizzo? They have anything to do with his policies. His policies didn't outright discriminate. But it was the image that was created of him as a police officer. And the fear. I mean, the literal fear that people in some communities like mine had of Mayor Rizzo and the police. Now difference was, in most cases, you knew that the police were and they knew who you were. But there was only With this fear element to see it manifest into the violence, the violent behaviors of our police officers is really disheartening. And it's crazy. Because we know that the vast majority 99.9% of our police officers are fine people, and they do their jobs. And they do it the right way as Larry Brown would say, you know, they do it the right way. But it's those individuals that give the entire police community, the black eye -- the bad name, to then want to take that narrative right and accused folks painting this broad brush that all cops are bad. We know better than that. We know better than that.
Steve Martorano
Yeah. Or that old people in the streets or looting.
John White, Jr.
Tell me about it. Yeah, okay. Yep. I wore a mask early on in the beginning of this into a store and it was like the person was trying to figure out who's gonna rob him, you know? Yeah. And I asked the guy, I probably asked the store owner, "Can I help you?"
Steve Martorano
Am I making you nervous?
Yeah, it's not gonna go away.
Well, you know what, John, here's something remarkable like to get your take on it. This virus. I know it looks like we are overwhelmed by morons in our, in our society and our leadership. And that's true to a certain extent. But I mean, there's some very, very, very smart people very dedicated smart people working, going, managing this disease and they will come up with a vaccine, and yet another virulent disease has raged screw this country for forever, and that's racism. And that is just racism. We will conquer this disease well in advance to getting to the core of racism in this country. Having said that, though,Jjohn, do you think this time might be different I know that's the worst kind of wishful thinking but do you think this time, it may be different with in terms of, you know, moving ahead on racism?
John White, Jr.
I think you'll see some changes. I think you'll see a legitimate effort on the part of folks in government that will bring about that change. It's not just a change in laws. It's a change in attitude. You can change the law. That's what people getting together and having a vote and you don't want something but changing attitudes is the real challenge. And that's going to take, unfortunately, many more generations to overcome. That's my fear.
Steve Martorano
Yeah, it's a it's it's not a sprint. It's a marathon. John White Jr, President, CEO of the Consortium is with us. He's talking about this grassroots organization that for over five decades, has been helping thousands of people throughout our area, with the challenges they confront with mental illness, substance abuse, and a wide range of behavioral health issues. And we wanted to bring John on because it is, as I said, July national Minority Mental Health Month. So we're glad john joined us. So there are people within the sound of who can hear this in this area. They want to get a hold of you guys, what do they have to do?
John White, Jr.
Well, the main number is 215-596-8100. And you follow the prompts and be directed to the program or the individuals that the agency that that you're trying to reach. You can also go to our website, www.ConsortiumInc.org. And you can see the full array of the services and projects that we're engaged in. We are 24-hour service that we're available. So you can call us any time of day or night and we'll be able to respond to to your particular inquiry or to your your needs.
Steve Martorano
You are also a 501 C, which makes your nonprofit. So let me get your nonprofit. Let me guess you welcome donations.
John White, Jr.
Yes, we do. And and you know, it's funny you mentioned that because in 50 or more years that we've been together, we've never been a fundraising organization and Steve, we turn no one away. Whether you're insured or not, you get the same service, the same help. If you need help, give us an opportunity to be of service.
Yeah, and you also don't turn people away based on anything. Race, color, gender, religion...
...race, color, creed, nothing, income status, nothing. Everybody just enrolled into the same programs, and we try to design our programs to meet individual needs as best that we can. We don't use cookie cutter approaches in most cases. We really do try to meet people where they and address their particular needs.
Steve Martorano
I can't let you go though from the from the corner here without talking a little sports because John knows me from my from the old days when I used to babble-on incoherently about teams in the Philadelphia area. Baseball's coming back. That's a good thing, right?
John White, Jr.
Yeah. But, what happens if it's interrupted?
Steve Martorano
People gotta get ready for that right?
John White, Jr.
That's exactly right. I mean, look, God forbid what happens if (Aaron) Nola got sick? You know, I hear you and couldn't pitch you know, what does that do to both the team, but also the fan who all of a sudden is like, Oh my God, the potential of serious disruption is real. And I think that will magnify that depression. I agree that sports guys like me and you are going to go through. You know, look, when I realized that Ray Diddy - Ray Didinger - wasn't that optimistic about completing the football season. My heart dropped.
Steve Martorano
You know what? I hear you? Listen, I hear you beat it may own as hard as it is get your head around. It may be better for everybody to go see you next year. Then get it going and then take it and then take it away. Its bad but at least I don't have to go make a living talking about sports that ain't happening anymore.
John White, Jr.
Yeah, sorry for those guys.
Steve Martorano
Well, John, thanks so much you and you and I still at some point are going to rendezvous for that cigar that we still have a little...
John White, Jr.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Come by and sit on my patio and your smoke cigar, get in the hot tub, relax...
Steve Martorano
You know, as long as we could socially distance in a hot tub I'm in.
John White, Jr.
No problem at all.
Steve Martorano
John White Jr, President CEO, of the Consortium. John's always a delight. Again, thanks for your work. And thanks for your time.
John White, Jr.
Just take care now. Bye bye.
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